Scripture in Black and White

What It Means to Be Protestant: A Review

This episode features an interview with Gavin Ortlund on his outstanding new book What It Means to be Protestant: The Case for an Always-Reforming Church.
Tune into the whole video to hear the answers to the following questions. 
1. Why is there such an increased interest in liturgy and in the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox traditions by some Evangelical intellectuals?
2. How should we think about the complex, confusing developments in the 2,000-year history of the Church?
3. How can we be fair, reasonable, and conciliatory, while pointing out the major errors that developed in non-Protestant traditions?
4. How did we get the New Testament—did the Roman Catholic Church give it to us?
5. Are the scriptures our final authority, or are both Scripture and sacred tradition our final authority?
6. Do the Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox both really think they are the one true Church?
7. Is Jesus’ salvation given to those with faith, or is it given to those with faith plus works?
8. What are some fundamental errors in Roman Catholicism?
9. What are fundamental errors in Eastern Orthodoxy?
10. How is mere Protestantism a renewal of biblical Christianity?
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Special Teaching on Spirits and Demons Pt. 2

Understanding Spiritual Warfare and the Holy Spirit: Part 2 - Scripture in Black and White
Welcome to part two of our series on the spiritual life and the demonic in 'Scripture in Black and White.' In this episode, we dive into the New Testament's teachings on walking in the Holy Spirit, identifying God's voice, and the role of worship in spiritual growth. We also explore the nature of spiritual warfare, discerning demonic influences, and the authority Christians have through Jesus Christ to battle these forces. Finally, we discuss the nuanced relationship between mental illness and demonic influence, and address viewer questions on these complex topics.
Key Takeaways 00:00 Introduction and Series Overview01:00 Walking in the Spirit: A Deep Dive02:30 Discerning the Spirit's Voice04:20 Providence and Personal Testimonies06:35 The Power of the Holy Spirit09:42 Transition to Demonic Influence12:52 Understanding Spiritual Warfare17:03 Degrees of Demonic Influence21:04 Casting Out Demons: Biblical and Historical Perspectives25:17 Understanding Authority Over Demons26:26 Biblical Foundations of Exorcism27:23 Jesus' Victory Over Demons30:21 Authority in the Heavenly Realms32:39 Practical Applications and Personal Testimonies40:57 Q&A Session with Elders50:04 Concluding Thoughts and Future Episodes
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Special Teaching on Spirits and Demons Pt. 1

In this episode, we share a special teaching from Bobby Harrington at Harpeth Christian Church. Bobby leads an in-depth discussion on the teachings of Scripture regarding being led by the Holy Spirit and interacting with the demonic. Sharing personal experiences and historical context, he elaborates on the interconnection between these spiritual elements, providing insights from his journey dating back to his early ministry days. Key discussions include the validity and experiences of demonic encounters, the role of the Holy Spirit in believers' lives, and the stance of Harpeth Christian Church on these issues. He also touches on the doctrine of Sola Scriptura and its importance in understanding and navigating spiritual warfare in modern times.

Doing our Best to Vote Like Jesus Pt. 2

This episode introduces part 2 of a special teaching Bobby Harrington did on how to best vote like Jesus. 
Watch part 1 here: https://youtu.be/7shEvQc8pz0
In this episode, we dive into the pressing issues underlying America's current cultural and political landscape. The discussion highlights the reasons behind the appeal of strong leaders like Donald Trump, the influence of traditional Judeo-Christian values, and the cyclical nature of societal strength and weakness. Drawing from historical, philosophical, and religious perspectives, the episode emphasizes a return to foundational values to prevent societal collapse. We explore the shift from Judeo-Christian principles to materialism and secular ideologies, the impact of cultural Marxism, and the importance of re-discipling minds to remain steadfast in faith. Additionally, the critical interconnectedness of spiritual beliefs and societal health is examined, stressing the urgent need for national revival. We address the misconceptions about overpopulation and climate fear, the alarming decline in ecclesiastical vocations, free speech threats, and the importance of grounding in truth and values amidst progressive challenges. This episode calls for a focus on spiritual, moral, and cultural renewal to stabilize society, with actionable steps rooted in faith and eternal principles.
Key Takeaways 
00:00 Introduction: Punching Down on Untouched Topics01:32 The Strong Man and Cultural Chaos03:44 The Roots of Western Civilization06:38 Seven Collapses Requiring Major Political Change10:22 The Rise of Progressive Ideology14:13 The Long March Through Institutions18:54 Spiritual Warfare and Cultural Battles21:47 The Need for National Revival22:03 Addressing Root Issues Beyond Politics22:38 Economic Collapse: A Looming Threat26:36 The Decline of Marriage and Family27:42 Manhood, Family, and Fertility Crisis31:04 Climate Change: Fear vs. Reality32:05 The Collapse of the Strong Church34:23 Free Speech Under Threat39:19 A Call to Action: Reviving Society
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Doing our Best to Vote Like Jesus Pt. 1

In this episode of Scripture in Black and White Bobby Harrington shares a presentation he did at Harpeth Christian Church on Voting like Jesus. 
Join Bobby as he explores the intersection of faith and politics. He dives deep into key scriptures, including Isaiah, Philippians, 1 Timothy, Romans, and Revelation, to offer biblical guidance on responsible voting and government leadership. Delve into historical and contemporary examples of good and evil governments, the Judeo-Christian foundations of the United States, and the role of Christians as the 'salt of the earth.' Understand diverse political views within the Christian community, examining the alignment of party platforms with biblical principles on issues like abortion, immigration, and societal values. Reflect on the cultural and societal dynamics influencing voting patterns and the importance of adhering to God's word in modern political discourse. This series fosters a balanced and thoughtful perspective, urging Christians to engage thoughtfully and responsibly in the democratic process.
Key Takeaways00:00 Welcome and Introduction06:25 Praying for Political Leaders08:27 The Role of Government According to Romans10:14 Evil Empires and End Times15:44 The Privilege and Responsibility of Voting19:00 The Role of the United States in Global Stability20:40 A Balanced Political Perspective25:34 Evaluating Trump's Character28:04 Critique of Kamala Harris29:33 The Values of Democrats vs. Republicans34:32 A Call for God's Word and Ways
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Summary of End Times | S4 Ep. 21

Summary of End Times: A 10-Point Summary and Reflection
In the final episode of 'Scripture in Black and White' Season 4, hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington wrap up their extensive discussion on the Bible's teachings about the end times. They provide a summarized understanding through a 10-point layout, covering topics such as the kingdom of God, the intermediate state, the nature of the rapture, tribulation, and the role of Israel. The discussion delves into essentials agreed upon by Orthodox Christians, including the second coming of Jesus, the resurrection of the dead, final judgment, and the ultimate hope of a new heaven and new earth. They also address the sobering reality of hell, while emphasizing God’s love and desire for salvation. Throughout the episode, they reflect on their own beliefs and lives, encouraging believers to live faithfully in anticipation of the promise of eternal life.
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Key Takeaways 00:00 Welcome to the Final Episode of Season Four00:44 Summarizing the End Times: 10 Key Points03:12 Understanding the Kingdom of God05:44 The Kingdom in the Old and New Testaments07:25 The Reign of Jesus and the Role of the Holy Spirit15:51 The Intermediate State and the Millennium18:26 The Antichrist and the False Trinity22:39 The Rapture and the Tribulation26:05 God's Promise to Israel and the Second Coming29:26 God's Words on Jesus' Return29:53 Hope in the Resurrection32:21 The Resurrection of the Dead36:07 The Final Judgment40:12 The Reality of Hell47:04 God's Promise of a New Heaven52:38 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Cosmic Tribulation | S4 Ep. 20

Exploring End Times Tribulations in Scripture
Today’s episode will help us understand the concept of tribulation from a biblical perspective, explore its role in the Christian journey, and prepare ourselves spiritually for potential end times challenges.
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In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into the concept of tribulation in the end times, examining its biblical basis and implications. They discuss differing interpretations of apocalyptic language in scriptures such as Revelation and Isaiah, and how these relate to the challenges Christians face today. As they provide insights into understanding typology and addressing potential hardships, Bobby reflects on his evolving perspective and underscores the importance of preparing for spiritual resilience. The episode also offers resources for further exploration of end times prophecy.
Key Takeaways00:00 Introduction and Greetings01:53 Discussing Tribulations and End Times04:45 The Great Tribulation in Revelation05:42 Biblical Examples of Tribulation08:41 Disillusionment and Loss in Christianity10:52 Prophecies and Symbolic Language16:32 Signs of the End Times25:29 Signs of the End Times26:34 Persecution and Betrayal26:58 False Prophets and Wickedness27:11 The Gospel and the End27:18 Destruction of the Temple27:30 Tribulation and Birth Pains27:59 Different Interpretations30:06 The Importance of Discipleship31:28 Training for Suffering34:14 Understanding Revelation41:03 The Six Seals of Revelation46:16 Final Thoughts and Recommendations
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In this episode of Scripture in Black and White, hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington tackle the topic of tribulation, both in general Christian terms and specifically in relation to end times prophecy as outlined in the Bible. They begin by reflecting on the challenges that come with following Jesus—loss of friendships, hardships, and even hatred, not for actions but simply for the association with Him.
They kick off by expressing gratitude for the audience's engagement and the high number of ebook downloads from Renew.org, which serves as a perfect transition into the day’s topic. Bobby admits he's a bit uneasy about sharing his thoughts, noting that his views on tribulation might not align with those of his church leaders or seminary professors. Despite this, he remains committed to following God's word, wherever it leads, even if it sparks controversy. Anthony encourages listeners to lean into these kinds of difficult conversations.
As they dig deeper into tribulation, the hosts remind us that all Christians will face trials, pointing to biblical examples like Job and Joseph. Jesus himself warned that believers would face hardships, as seen in John 16:33. This forms the foundation of their discussion: suffering is part of the Christian journey.
The conversation then shifts to specific Bible passages on tribulation, including references from Isaiah, Luke, and Revelation. Bobby offers a detailed take on Isaiah 13 and 34, suggesting that these passages point to future tribulations, contrasting this with the more traditional view that they only reference historical events like the fall of Babylon. He argues that these passages use typology, where earlier events foreshadow future, more significant ones.
They wrap up by exploring Revelation 6, where the opening of the first six seals brings conquest, war, famine, death, martyrdom, and cosmic disturbances—events Bobby links to the final tribulations. He draws parallels between these apocalyptic events and Jesus' teachings in the Gospels.
Throughout the episode, Bobby emphasizes the need for Christians to be prepared for hardship, suggesting a discipleship approach that builds resilience and faithfulness amid suffering. He shares insights from Curtis Sargent's missionary work, where new believers are trained to endure suffering as part of their faith journey.
The episode concludes with a recommendation of The Promise of the Future by Cornelius Venema, a helpful resource on end times prophecy. Anthony and Bobby encourage continued study and reflection, reminding listeners that while interpretations may vary, the return of Jesus is a certainty worth preparing for.
In essence, this episode offers a deep dive into tribulation, blending scriptural insights with practical advice for enduring future challenges. Anthony and Bobby's engaging discussion invites listeners to stay rooted in their faith while preparing for what’s to come.
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Israel and End Times Pt 4 | S4 Ep. 19

Join Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington in this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White' as they explore the prophecies in Zechariah chapters 12-14 and their connection to end times. Dive into historical insights and theological perspectives, discussing the fulfillment of these prophecies and their implications for the future. Tune in for an enlightening discussion on biblical prophecies, Jewish conversion, and their significance in understanding God's plans.
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Key Takeaways 00:00 Introduction and Greetings01:01 Discussion on Prophecies and Fulfillment04:42 Stories and Personal Experiences09:05 Deep Dive into Zechariah17:28 Connecting Zechariah to End Times26:41 Concluding Thoughts and Encouragement32:23 Final Remarks and Call to Action
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Israel and End Times Pt. 3 | S4 Ep. 18

In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into the theological implications of Israel's role in the end times. The discussion touches on Romans 11, Galatians 3, and other biblical passages, exploring how Gentiles are grafted into the Abrahamic promises. The episode concludes with an encouragement to download a free ebook on the topic from renew.org and a call for viewers to engage more with the content on the platform.
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Key Takeaways 00:00 Introduction and Greetings00:34 Discussion on Israel and End Times02:01 Different Perspectives on Romans Chapter 1102:45 Spiritual Context of Israel in the New Testament04:57 Analogy of the Olive Tree07:43 Debate on the Promises to Israel11:31 Bobby's Interpretation of the Abrahamic Covenant20:59 Anthony's Questions and Clarifications36:58 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Israel and End Times Pt. 2 | S4 Ep. 17

In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White' Season 4, Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive deep into the biblical discussion on the future of Israel as it relates to end times. Building on last week's discussion, they examine Luke 21 and Romans 11, discussing Jesus' prophecies concerning Jerusalem, the fullness of the Gentiles, and the eventual salvation of Israel. Key themes include the significance of the olive tree analogy, the nature of God's irrevocable gifts and call to Israel, and how these biblical truths align with both historical and modern understandings of prophecy. Join the hosts as they unpack complex theological concepts and their implications for believers today.
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Key Takeaways 00:00 Introduction and Recap01:30 Discussion on Luke 21 and End Times03:58 The Role of Gentiles and Jews in Prophecy05:48 The Fulfillment of Gentile Times08:00 Historical Context and Modern Implications18:59 Exploring Romans 1133:23 The Irrevocable Promises to the Jewish People35:37 The Call to Respond to Jesus, the Messiah36:58 The Disproportionate Influence of Jewish People39:20 Paul's Discussion on Jewish Blindness to Jesus44:31 The Olive Tree Analogy and Gentile Inclusion48:14 The Full Inclusion of Jewish People57:21 Debating Ethnicity and Salvation01:08:37 Concluding Thoughts and Future Discussions
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Israel and End Times Pt. 1 | S4 Ep. 16

In this episode of Scripture in Black and White,' hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into the complexities of modern Israel in light of Biblical prophecy. They discuss the amillennial viewpoint, examining key historical events like the Israeli Independence in 1948, the Six-Day War of 1967, and recent attacks on Israel. The discussion also touches on the theological significance of these events, the role of ethnic Israel, and interpretations of scripture concerning the end times. Tune in for a deep exploration of how history and scripture intersect with contemporary issues surrounding Israel.
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The Rapture in Daniel 9 and 1 Thessalonians 4 | S4 Ep. 15

In this episode of Scripture in Black and White, Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into detailed discussions about the rapture, examining differing theological perspectives on end times, and Christ's second coming. The conversation highlights the complex interpretations and the historical context behind the belief in pre-tribulation rapture, ultimately encouraging viewers to find hope and urgency in their faith and works during challenging times. Join us as we navigate these profound biblical prophecies and their implications for believers.
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Key Takeaways 
00:00 Introduction and Welcome01:03 Recap of Previous Episodes03:19 Today's Topic: The Rapture05:05 Biblical Basis for the Rapture08:31 Different Interpretations of the Rapture12:07 Dispensational Premillennialism Explained15:28 Daniel's Prophecy and Its Interpretation29:47 Challenges to Dispensational Interpretation37:11 Theological and Practical Implications50:30 Conclusion and Encouragement
 
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Satan, The Beast, and the False Prophet in Revelation 13 | S4 Ep. 14

Understanding Revelation 13: Antichrist, False Prophets, and the Beast
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Join Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington in this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White' as they go into the intricate topics of the Antichrist, Revelation 13, and its apocalyptic language. They explore key concepts, including the historical and typological analysis of biblical prophecies, the role of political and religious powers symbolized by the beast and the false prophet, and the significance of the number 666. Through careful interpretation and reference to early Christian writings, they provide insights and perspectives on the unfolding of end-times events as envisioned in the Bible. This episode also touches upon the importance of being prepared for future trials and maintaining faith in the midst of adversity.
Key Takeaways 
00:00 Introduction and Recap00:58 The Antichrist in Modern Context02:46 Historical Antichrists and Biblical References06:26 Expectations and Teachings on the Antichrist11:35 Daniel's Prophecies and Revelation15:56 Interpreting Apocalyptic Language28:01 Revelation 13: The Beast and Its Symbolism33:10 The Beast and the Roman Empire34:01 Blasphemy and Authority of the Beast35:12 Worldwide Power of the Beast Empire38:06 The False Prophet and the One World Order39:44 The Second Beast and Its Deception42:14 The Mark of the Beast44:33 The Number 666 and Its Mysteries45:18 Revelation 17 and the Beast Empire50:31 The Defeat of the Beast Empire56:44 Final Thoughts and Interpretations
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In this episode of "Scripture in Black and White," hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington explore the Antichrist and related eschatological themes in depth.
Bobby begins by referencing 1 John 2:18, which speaks of the Antichrist and the presence of multiple antichrists throughout history. He cites figures like Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Mao Tse Tung as embodiments of the Antichrist spirit, arguing that these examples point to an eventual final manifestation. The conversation then transitions to an analysis of 2 Thessalonians 2, where Bobby outlines ten characteristics of the "man of lawlessness," a figure destined for destruction who sets himself up as God in the temple.
As they delve deeper, Anthony and Bobby turn to the Book of Daniel, focusing on chapter 7. Bobby explains the significance of the "little horn," a king who rises after ten others, uprooting three in the process. This figure, who speaks blasphemies and wages war against the saints, is linked to the ten horns in Revelation, suggesting that the imagery in Daniel serves as a precursor to the prophecies in Revelation. The hosts emphasize the importance of understanding the symbolic language used in these texts—symbols, metaphors, and typologies like animals, colors, and numbers—to avoid misinterpretations.
Next, the discussion zeroes in on Revelation 13, where Bobby describes the beast with ten horns and seven heads, a symbol of a future political and military empire with global influence. He interprets this imagery as pointing to a revived Roman Empire-like entity that will exert control over the world and persecute Christians. Bobby also introduces the "second beast," or the false prophet, who performs deceptive signs and compels people to worship the first beast, linking this figure to the "man of lawlessness" in 2 Thessalonians 2.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing the mark of the beast (666), a requirement for buying and selling goods. Bobby draws parallels to modern developments like electronic transactions and digital identities, suggesting that these could align with prophetic warnings about the future.
Towards the end, the focus shifts to Revelation 17 and 19, where Bobby elaborates on the beast empire and the ten kings who receive authority alongside the beast and wage war against Jesus, only to be ultimately defeated. He ties this imagery back to Daniel 7, reinforcing the interconnectedness of these prophecies. In Revelation 19, the final victory of Jesus over the beast and the false prophet is highlighted, as they are cast into the lake of burning sulfur. Bobby concludes by reflecting on the challenges of interpreting apocalyptic prophecies and the importance of preparing for potential persecution.
Throughout the episode, Anthony and Bobby provide a comprehensive analysis of biblical prophecy, exploring the symbolism and themes within these texts to shed light on their relevance today.
 
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The Beast Empire in Daniel 7 | S4 Ep. 13

Exploring Daniel 7: Unpacking Biblical Prophecy and End Times
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Today’s episode will help us deepen our understanding of biblical prophecy in Daniel 7, exploring its connections to historical events and future expectations to better prepare for end-times challenges.
In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into Daniel Chapter 7. They examine its connections to Second Thessalonians Chapter 2 and other biblical prophecies concerning the end times. The discussion contrasts different interpretations of the four beasts and ten horns introduced in Daniel's vision, connecting them to both historical kingdoms like Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome, and future prophetic events as seen in Revelation. Their analytical yet accessible conversation aims to prepare believers for potential future challenges and deepen understanding of biblical prophecy.
Key Takeaways 00:00 Introduction and Greetings00:32 Segway to Second Thessalonians and Daniel05:55 Understanding Daniel's Vision11:08 Interpretations of the Beasts22:26 Debating the Little Horn24:24 Heavenly Scene and Final Kingdom38:54 Comparing Views and Conclusion
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In this episode of "Scripture in Black and White," hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into a discussion on biblical prophecy, focusing on Daniel 7. The episode, titled "S4 E12-MP3 for Audio Podcasting," centers on interpreting complex passages related to the end times, a topic that has long intrigued theologians and believers.
Anthony begins by introducing the subject, thanking listeners for their continued support, and setting the stage for a weekly exploration of biblical teachings. The core discussion revolves around 2 Thessalonians 2, Matthew 24, and their connections to the prophetic visions in Daniel 7. Bobby Harrington, an experienced pastor, revisits the essentials of the second coming—resurrection, final judgment, and eternal destiny—highlighting an often overlooked link between 2 Thessalonians 2 and Daniel 7, which he believes clarifies certain controversial end-times teachings.
Bobby offers his interpretation of Daniel 7, suggesting that the four beasts described symbolize successive empires: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. He sees these beasts as representations of historical events leading up to and slightly beyond the birth of Jesus, with the prophecy foreshadowing significant political and spiritual upheaval.
The hosts discuss the vivid imagery of the four beasts: a lion with eagle's wings, a bear, a leopard with four heads and wings, and a terrifying beast with iron teeth and ten horns. Bobby argues that these beasts represent prominent ancient empires and predicts the emergence of a "little horn" as a persecuting force against God's people.
Anthony and Bobby explore different views on the identity of this "little horn." Anthony suggests it could be Domitian, a first-century Roman emperor, while Bobby believes it points to a future persecuting power connected to a revived Roman Empire. They then discuss a passage in Daniel 7 describing a heavenly tribunal where God, "the Ancient of Days," presides, ultimately overthrowing the fourth beast and the little horn, signifying God's victory over earthly empires.
The episode also goes into various scholarly interpretations of these prophecies, contrasting traditional views with more progressive ones. The discussion highlights connections between Daniel 7 and the Book of Revelation, emphasizing eight parallels, such as the ten horns representing kingdoms and the ultimate triumph of God's kingdom. Bobby concludes by stressing the importance of understanding these prophecies to prepare believers for future challenges.
In summary, this episode offers an in-depth exploration of end-times prophecy, focusing on Daniel 7 and its relevance to both historical events and future expectations, providing listeners with valuable insights into the complexities of biblical interpretation.

The Man of Lawlessness Pt. 3 (feat. Larry Pechawer) | S4 Ep. 12

Exploring 2 Thessalonians 2: In-Depth Discussion with Larry Pechawer | Scripture in Black & White Season 4
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In this episode of Scripture in Black & White,  hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington welcome special guest Larry Pechawer. They dive into an in-depth discussion on 2 Thessalonians 2, exploring different interpretations and theological perspectives. Larry, a retired Bible college professor with extensive experience in Old Testament and Hebrew studies, shares his unique insights and thorough analysis on the passage. The conversation covers topics such as the doctrine of imminence, the man of lawlessness, and the destruction of Jerusalem, providing listeners a comprehensive examination of these complex theological issues.
Key Takeaways 00:00 Introduction and Welcome01:44 Understanding Second Thessalonians 206:14 Diving into the Text: Second Thessalonians 2:1-1211:16 The Man of Lawlessness and the Day of the Lord13:48 Historical Context and Interpretations20:24 The Role of Imminence in Prophecy21:42 Differentiating Key Figures: Lawless One, Beast, and Antichrist28:08 Paul's Connection to the Olivet Discourse39:52 The Coming of the Man of Lawlessness43:50 Imminence and the Return of Christ45:45 Debating the Signs of the Second Coming59:24 The Role of John of Gashala01:12:08 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
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In this episode hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington, along with their special guest, Larry Pechawer, embark on a detailed discussion about 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2 and its implications, particularly regarding the end times, the concept of the "man of lawlessness," and the doctrine of eminence.
The show kicks off with the usual warm greetings and introduction of Larry Pechawer, a Bible college professor with extensive experience in teaching both Old and New Testament scriptures. Larry shares his academic background, including his tenure at several theological institutions and his expertise in Old Testament prophecy, which laid the foundation for his interest in the topics discussed in this episode.
The central theme of this episode revolves around 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2, where Paul discusses the second coming of Christ and the events that would precede it, such as the appearance of the "man of lawlessness." The hosts and Larry dive deep into the text, analyzing verse by verse to extract meanings and interpretations. The discussion is particularly focused on the significance of the "man of lawlessness," his identity, and the timing of Christ's return.
A significant part of the discussion revolves around the interpretation of verses 8 and 9. Larry offers a unique perspective that the "coming" mentioned in verse 8 may not necessarily pertain to Jesus' second coming but rather to the appearance of the "man of lawlessness." His translation hints at a timeframe of events rather than a singular divine intervention. This reinterpretation challenges conventional readings that typically associate the verses directly with Christ's return.
Another focal point is the doctrine of eminence—the belief that Christ's return could happen at any moment. Larry underscores the difficulty in maintaining this doctrine if Paul indeed listed specific signs and events that have to occur before the second coming. By linking the "man of lawlessness" and the rebellion to historical events like the Jewish revolt, Larry seeks to reconcile these passages with the idea that once those early prophecies were fulfilled, the second coming could then be considered imminent from that point forward.
The episode also touches on different eschatological views—pre-millennialism, amillennialism, post-millennialism, and preterism—and how 2 Thessalonians 2 poses challenges to these interpretations. Bobby and Anthony steer the dialogue towards understanding how these theological frameworks hold up against the text's specifics.
Towards the end of the episode, Bobby and Anthony inquire further into Larry's interpretation, especially about the specific activities of John of Gashala and whether he fits the description given in the scripture. They discuss the apocalyptic language used by Paul and its implications for identifying the "man of lawlessness." The conversation is enriched by the guests' shared dedication to understanding the scripture deeply and coherently, despite differing viewpoints.
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The Man of Lawlessness Pt. 2 | S4 Ep. 11

When Will He Return? 
“Today’s episode will help us deepen our understanding of 2 Thessalonians and Matthew 24, equipping us to interpret end-times prophecy with clarity and faithfulness to scripture.
In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington continue their examination of 2 Thessalonians, focusing on Paul's teachings about the end times, the man of lawlessness, and the role of apostasy. They tie these themes into Jesus' prophecies from Matthew 24, discussing false teachings, signs, and the importance of holding onto the truth. The hosts also announce a future guest from Ozark Christian College who will present a different perspective on these matters.
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Key Takeaways 
00:00 Introduction and Recap01:25 Discussion on Second Thessalonians02:09 The Man of Lawlessness03:53 The Restrainer and End Times Theories07:32 Historical Context and Interpretations20:58 False Teachings and Signs of the End Times27:07 Matthew 24 and the End of the Age33:13 Persecution and Apostasy35:11 The Gospel to All Nations36:19 Timeline of Events40:39 The Abomination of Desolation46:27 The Coming of the Son of Man57:55 God's Powerful Delusion01:04:40 Conclusion and Next Steps
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In this episode of "Scripture in Black and White," hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington go into the rich themes of 2 Thessalonians, focusing on Paul's teachings about the second coming of Jesus and end-times prophecy. They start with a warm welcome back for their audience, briefly recapping the previous episode's discussion to set the stage for this deep dive.
Discussion on 2 Thessalonians:
Introduction and Continuation:
Anthony and Bobby reflect on their previous discussions about Paul's writings in 2 Thessalonians, expressing gratitude for their audience's engagement.
They outline the focus for this episode: a thorough examination of 2 Thessalonians 2, with insights from Larry Pichower of Ozark Christian College promised for future episodes. They stress that while understanding end-times prophecies is important, these topics are not essential for salvation and can be open to different interpretations.
Exegesis of 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2:
The hosts analyze Paul's teachings about events preceding the second coming, such as apostasy, the revealing of the man of lawlessness, and the mystery of lawlessness already at work.
They discuss the "restrainer," exploring various interpretations including the Roman Empire, the gospel's power, the Holy Spirit, or angelic forces under God's command.
The discussion emphasizes the importance of being aware and vigilant, understanding the scripture correctly, and preparing for the return of Jesus.
Link to Matthew 24:
Comparison with Gospel Narratives:
Bobby connects Paul's teachings with Jesus' prophecies in Matthew 24, drawing on scholarly insights from D.A. Carson.
They discuss Jesus’ warnings about deception, wars, famines, earthquakes, persecution, and apostasy, linking these signs to Paul's teachings in Thessalonians.
Signs of the End Times:
The conversation highlights the similarities between the "birth pains" in Matthew and the signs of apostasy and the man of lawlessness in Thessalonians.
They reflect on historical events, such as the destruction of the temple in 70 AD, as precursors or shadows of the final tribulation predicted in scripture.
Clarifications and Exhortations:
The Role of Predictions and Interpretations:
Anthony and Bobby caution against specific end-times predictions, like those made by Jehovah’s Witnesses and modern televangelists, which can lead to skepticism and disillusionment.
They emphasize the importance of staying firm in faith, acknowledging that the exact timing of these events remains uncertain but encouraging believers to be prepared.
Audience Guidance:
The hosts urge their audience to cling to biblical truths and remain wary of false teachings, expressing a heartfelt desire for their listeners, including their own families, to be deeply rooted in scripture to withstand deception.
Upcoming Discussions:
The episode wraps up with a teaser for the next session featuring Larry Pichower, who will offer a different perspective on eschatological issues, reaffirming that diverse interpretations can coexist within the broader Christian fellowship.
They remind the audience about a free ebook available for download, which expands on the discussed topics and encourages further study.
Conclusion:
Anthony and Bobby emphasize the importance of scriptural literacy and vigilance, urging believers to stand firm in their faith amidst a world filled with false teachings and prophecies.
The examination of 2 Thessalonians 2 and Matthew 24 provides a comprehensive understanding of end-times prophecy, highlighting the necessity of adhering to biblical truths.
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The Man of Lawlessness Pt. 1 | S4 Ep. 10

We apologize to our audience, this featured episode follows along with our Discussion on 2nd Thessalonians 2 and was placed out of order. 
Feel free to view the episodes:
The Man of Lawlessness Pt. 2
The Man of Lawlessness Pt. 3 
In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' host Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington explore Second Thessalonians, focusing on Paul's teachings about end times, apostasy, and the man of lawlessness. They go into various interpretations and discuss how these prophecies relate to contemporary events and future expectations. The conversation includes an examination of classic all-millennial views and references to other biblical passages like Matthew 24 and Revelation 13.

The Five End Times Frameworks Part 2 | S4 Ep. 9

Understanding Preterist Amillennialism and Millennial Views in Christian Eschatology
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In this episode of Scripture in Black and White, Bobby Harrington and Anthony Walker explore various perspectives on millennial views in Christian eschatology, focusing particularly on Preterist Amillennialism. They discuss how this view interprets the millennium and the binding of Satan as symbolic periods starting with Jesus' resurrection. Comparisons are made to Classic Amillennialism, Historic Premillennialism, and Dispensational Premillennialism, covering the origins and beliefs of each view. The discussion also critiques Hyper-Preterism as heretical and emphasizes understanding symbolic versus literal interpretations of biblical prophecies. The episode aims to educate and engage listeners with a thorough exploration of these eschatological views.
Key Takeaways00:00 Introduction to Preterist Amillennialism01:19 Exploring Preterist Amillennialism03:57 Critique of Hyper Preterism06:41 Symbolism in Revelation10:40 Classic Amillennialism Explained17:47 Historic Premillennialism21:17 Dispensational Premillennialism27:16 Postmillennialism: An Optimistic View31:10 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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This episode, provides an in-depth examination of various eschatological views within Christian theology, focusing on millennial perspectives. The discussion is led by two hosts, one explaining the perspectives while the other asks clarifying questions.
Preterist AmillennialismThe episode begins by exploring Preterist Amillennialism. This perspective, endorsed by theologians like R.C. Sproul, posits that the kingdom of God began with Jesus' resurrection, marking the start of a millennium during which Satan is bound and unable to hinder the church's growth. This view sees the church's expansion as a fulfillment of Revelation 20, with the righteous reigning with Jesus in heaven until His return. This will be followed by the resurrection of the righteous and the wicked, final judgment, and eternal destinies. The hosts caution against Hyper-Preterism, which contends that Jesus' second coming, the resurrection, and the final judgment already occurred in 70 AD, contradicting foundational Christian beliefs and scripture passages like 2 Thessalonians 2.
Classic AmillennialismThe discussion then moves to Classic Amillennialism, which aligns with the belief that the millennium began with Jesus' resurrection, inaugurating a period during which Satan is bound, allowing the church to expand globally. This timeline includes a last days' decline, the rise of the Antichrist, and significant tribulations before Jesus intervenes. The episode emphasizes the symbolic interpretation of the thousand-year period, a concept rooted in literature like Plato's "Republic."
Historic PremillennialismNext, Historic Premillennialism is examined. This view, prevalent in the early church until the time of Augustine, posits an Old Testament era followed by the church age. A notable decline and great tribulation ensue, featuring the Antichrist and cosmic disruptions. Jesus' return initiates a literal thousand-year reign on earth with the righteous, followed by Satan's release, a final apostasy, and ultimate divine intervention, leading to final judgment and eternal destinies.
Dispensational PremillennialismThe conversation then shifts to Dispensational Premillennialism, a modern view originating in the 1830s with John Nelson Darby and popularized by the Schofield Reference Bible. This perspective introduces a distinct period for Israel, delineating a church age that pauses prophetic fulfillment regarding Israel until the rapture, which removes Christians from the earth. A seven-year tribulation follows, focused on Israel, marked by the Antichrist's rise and severe persecution. After this tribulation, Jesus' return inaugurates a literal thousand-year reign, followed again by Satan's release, final judgment, and eternal destinies.
PostmillennialismThe episode also explores Postmillennialism, characterized by optimism about the church's future. It suggests the millennium began with Jesus' resurrection, leading to gospel prosperity and global church growth. Although this view posits a brief rebellion before Jesus' return, it anticipates a general improvement in adherence to Jesus' teachings worldwide.
Throughout the podcast, the hosts reference biblical texts, historical contexts, and scholarly works, offering a comprehensive overview of various theological positions. They emphasize respect for differing views and encourage listeners to engage critically and reflectively, underscoring the importance of scriptural fidelity and historical consistency.
Summary and ReflectionThe episode concludes with a summary, highlighting the intention to accurately represent each eschatological view. The hosts reflect on the importance of understanding these perspectives and invite audience interaction.
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The Five End Times Frameworks Part 1 | S4 Ep. 8

Understanding End Times: Diverse Perspectives on Millennialism
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In this episode, hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington discuss the complex topic of end times and millennialism. They explore various theological perspectives, covering subjects such as the new heavens and new earth, the second coming of Jesus, the resurrection of the dead, final judgment, hell, and tribulation. Bobby introduces and explains five key end-time paradigms. This episode encourages viewers to maintain an open, truth-seeking mindset while exploring different theological interpretations.
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00:00 Introduction and Greetings
00:39 Overview of Previous Topics
01:01 Today's Focus: End Times Paradigms
02:04 Five Key End Time Beliefs
07:12 The Millennium Debate
07:41 Understanding the Antichrist
08:13 The Rapture Explained
08:52 The Tribulation Period
09:17 Restoration of Ethnic Israel
16:11 Different End Time Paradigms
27:06 Respecting Different Views
28:05 Conclusion and Personal Reflections
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In this episode Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive deep into various interpretations of Christian eschatology. The episode starts light-heartedly, with Anthony referencing being called a "pan millennialist," before shifting to deeper theological discussions. They recap previously tackled themes such as the new heavens and new earth, among other eschatological topics.
The episode's primary focus is on breaking down five key eschatological paradigms:
Preterist Amillennialism: This belief posits that most prophecies have already been fulfilled, with only the second coming of Jesus remaining. This view is common among conservative Presbyterians and other fact-based Christian denominations.
Classic Amillennialism: This perspective holds that the church expands over time, faces tribulations towards the end, and culminates in a final judgment. The millennium is viewed as a symbolic period of Christ’s reign through the church.
Historic Premillennialism: This traditional stance anticipates that Jesus will return before a literal thousand-year reign on earth. Unlike other views, it does not separate the destinies of Jews and the Church and sees the millennium as a literal era of Christ’s rule following his return.
Dispensational Premillennialism: This view outlines different dispensations (ages) in salvation history, particularly distinguishing between the church and Israel. It envisions a future millennium with events like the rapture preceding tribulation, following the sequence popularized by the "Left Behind" series.
Postmillennialism: This belief asserts that the world will progressively improve under Christ’s reign, culminating in his second coming. The doctrines related to this view see the millennium as a current, symbolic period marked by gradual betterment.
Bobby goes into detail about the origins and implications of these views, explaining how personal experiences and academic influences shape one's eschatological beliefs. For instance, he mentions Dr. Bruce Waltke's shift from Dispensational Premillennialism to a different view, illustrating how scholarly perspectives can evolve over time.
They stress the importance of respecting differing views within the Christian community, emphasizing that these are not essential issues for salvation. They advocate for listeners to adopt a learner’s posture, encouraging informed and respectful examination of beliefs. Anthony and Bobby highlight how eschatological views shape believers' outlooks and actions in the present, influencing their engagement with faith and the world.
In conclusion, this episode of "Scripture in Black and White" provides an in-depth exploration of Christian eschatology, presenting a balanced view of various theological perspectives on end times. Anthony and Bobby aim to foster informed, respectful discussion and personal reflection on these deeply significant topics, helping listeners to build a nuanced understanding of their faith.
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The New Heaven and the New Earth | S4 Ep. 7

Exploring the Promises of the New Heaven and New Earth | Scripture in Black and White Season 4 Episode 7
In this episode of 'Scripture in Black and White,' Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington discuss the profound concept of the new heaven and the new earth, exploring biblical promises and the ultimate utopian dream. They reflect on life without the curse of the fall, the intimate presence of God, and the vision of an eternal paradise where believers dwell with God and loved ones. The hosts also highlight the importance of the final judgment and inspire listeners to look forward to an eternity filled with joy, free from pain and suffering. Furthermore, they emphasize the significance of heaven and how it offers hope and encouragement amidst life's challenges.
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Key Takeaways 00:00 Introduction and Utopian Dream00:44 Welcome to Season Four00:50 Reflecting on the Final Judgment01:26 Promises of God and the New Heaven and New Earth02:09 Encouragement and Resources03:32 Insight into Heaven04:04 The Book of Life and Final Judgment05:59 The New Heaven and New Earth12:19 Living in God's Presence29:10 The Curse of the Fall and Its Removal34:59 The Garden of Eden Restored42:57 Conclusion and Next Episode Preview
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In this episode of "Scripture in Black and White, hosts Anthony Walker and Bobby Harrington dive into eschatology—the study of end times, focusing specifically on the Christian vision of the new heaven and new earth.
#### Introduction:- Bobby and Anthony Walker rexpress their desire to be in the presence of God with their loved ones, friends, and even those who don't know Jesus yet. - They highlight their gratitude for the listeners' support through previous episodes, particularly in discussing the tough topic of the final judgment.
#### Discussion Points:1. **God's Promises and Eternal Destiny:**   - The hosts share their excitement about discussing a lighter and more promising subject compared to the final judgment—the promises of God for the future.   - Bobby Harrington emphasizes the significance of being firm and truthful according to scripture.
2. **Introduction to the New Heaven and New Earth:**   - Revelation's depiction of the final judgment and the new heaven and new earth is discussed.   - The concept from 1 Peter 1:3 regarding inheritance in the heavenly realms is elaborated upon.
3. **Living in the Presence of God:**   - Bobby and Anthony discuss the blessings of dwelling with God and the deep longing to be in His presence.   - They connect this experience to the description of the new Jerusalem in Revelation, explaining that the new Jerusalem represents the people of God.
4. **End of the Curse of the Fall:**   - The segment elaborates on the removal of the curse of sin and death, highlighting the transformative power of God in the new creation.   - Additional biblical passages are cited to support this, including Romans 8 and Revelation 21, which promise no more pain, sorrow, or death.
5. **Characteristics of the New Heaven and New Earth:**   - The hosts discuss how the new heaven and new earth will restore the pre-fall ideal of the Garden of Eden, filled with life and free from the curse.   - Revelation 22’s passage about the river of life and the tree of life is used to illustrate this perfect, eternal state.
6. **Living Eternally Without Time:**   - Anthony and Bobby reflect on the challenge of comprehending eternity beyond the constraints of time, emphasizing desire for God's presence as surpassing temporal concerns.
7. **Inspirational and Motivational Call:**   - The hosts stress the importance of inspiring others with the promise of heaven and focusing on Jesus amidst life’s struggles.   - They encourage listeners to keep their eyes on eternal joys that far surpass earthly sufferings or sacrifices made in faith.
#### Conclusion:- The episode wraps up with a preview of upcoming topics, including interpretative debates on issues like the Millennium, the Antichrist, tribulations, and Israel in end-times theology.- The hosts thank listeners and direct them to additional resources, such as the renew.org website and specific recommendations like Anthony Walker's book on identity.
This episode serves as an encouraging and thorough exploration of Christian eschatology, aiming to instill hope, faith, and a longing for the promised new creation.
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